Wondering about a CNC mill. 2 messages

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:35 AM
To: awdeo@optonline.net
Hi, the link to your ebay store seems broken here: http://deepgroove1.com/contact.htm Anyway, I'm wondering if your mill would be good for a beginner-enthusiast? I think I'd like to get it decked out from the get-go that makes sense. What are all the parts should be looking at for turn-key? So far I think: CNC mill, gecko drive 3 motors mill options: 1/16-3/8" chuck with arbor (2x) mill options: extra belt for mil mill options: 1 1/4-2 1/2 fly cutter mill options: indexable end mill Boring Head tool post holder with cutoff bit collet-chuck adapter trunion table with 3.25 chuck What do I need to drive this thing, one of your control boxes? It wasn't completely clear which. Any interest in Bitcoin? Jeff

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Deepgroove1.com (chas) <awdeo@optonline.net>	Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
greetings, We use our own gecko drive based stepper box which is included in a milling machine purchase This is a link to our drive http://www.deepgroove1.com/controller/cnc%20controller.htm   You have a complete list and I doubt you would need anything else You also need mach 3 software to control the machine Chas   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:35 AM To: awdeo@optonline.net Subject: Wondering about a CNC mill.   [Quoted text hidden]

May 24, 2017 16:18:57 PDT  Transaction ID: 1UCXXXXXXXXXXX74A

Hello Jeff Rodriguez, You sent a payment of $2,670.00 USD to Paul Herink (awdeo@optonline.net) It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in your account. Merchant  Paul Herink  awdeo@optonline.net  Instructions to merchant  You haven't entered any instructions. Shipping address - confirmed  Jeff Rodriguez XXXX XXXXXX Rd XXX, WA XXXXX United States Shipping details  The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet. Description Unit price Qty Amount cnc mill options  cnc mill options: CNC mill, gecko drive 3 motors $1,750.00 USD 1 $1,750.00 USD cnc mill options  mill options: 1/16-3/8" chuck with arbor $23.00 USD 1 $23.00 USD cnc mill options  mill options: extra belt for mill $9.00 USD 2 $18.00 USD cnc mill options  mill options: 1 1/4-2 1/2 fly cutter $20.00 USD 1 $20.00 USD cnc mill options  mill options: indexable end mill $35.00 USD 1 $35.00 USD Boring Head  $46.00 USD 1 $46.00 USD tool post holder with bit  bit options: Cut off tool bit $10.00 USD 1 $10.00 USD collet-chuck adapter  $15.00 USD 1 $15.00 USD Trunion table with 280 oz stepper  trunion table: trunion table with 3.25 chuck $630.00 USD 1 $630.00 USD Subtotal $2,547.00 USD Shipping and handling $123.00 USD Total $2,670.00 USD Payment $2,670.00 USD Charge will appear on your credit card statement as "PAYPAL *AWDEO"  Payment sent to awdeo@optonline.net

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Dear Jeff Rodriguez,  Paul Herink added shipping details. Please note that the tracking information and shipping status are shown exactly as the seller entered them. Shipper UPS Tracking number 1ZYXXXXXXXXXXXX892 Shipping status Shipped If you have questions about the shipment, please contact awdeo@optonline.net Seller Paul Herink awdeo@optonline.net Jeff Rodriguez XXXX XXXXXX Rd XXX, WA XXXXX United States Description Unit price Qty Amount cnc mill options Item#  $1,750.00 USD 1 $1,750.00 USD cnc mill options Item#  $23.00 USD 1 $23.00 USD cnc mill options Item#  $9.00 USD 2 $18.00 USD cnc mill options Item#  $20.00 USD 1 $20.00 USD cnc mill options Item#  $35.00 USD 1 $35.00 USD Boring Head Item#  $46.00 USD 1 $46.00 USD tool post holder with bit Item#  $10.00 USD 1 $10.00 USD collet-chuck adapter Item#  $15.00 USD 1 $15.00 USD Trunion table with 280 oz stepper Item#  $630.00 USD 1 $630.00 USD Subtotal $2,547.00 USD Shipping and handling $123.00 USD Insurance $0.00 USD Tax $0.00 USD Total $2,670.00 USD Payment $2,670.00 USD Payment sent to awdeo@optonline.net   Sincerely, PayPal

ETA on the trunion table? 23 messages

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 9:38 PM
To: awdeo@optonline.net
Hi Chas, The mill and electronics have arrived, did you have tracking info, or ETA for the trunnion table? PP Txn: 1UCXXXXXXXXXXX74A Thanks! Jeff

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www.deepgroove1.com <awdeo@optonline.net>	Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:10 AM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
My vendor is in the process of moving Of course he never gave me a heads up   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 12:38 AM To: awdeo@optonline.net Subject: ETA on the trunion table? [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:50 AM
To: "www.deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Hey, any word on when your vendor will be back up and going? Thanks! [Quoted text hidden]

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www.deepgroove1.com <awdeo@optonline.net>	Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:23 AM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
His machine is mill is installed and I think he is working on his lathe ARGH Sorry for the delay   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 11:50 AM To: www.deepgroove1.com Subject: Re: ETA on the trunion table? [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:44 PM
To: "www.deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Ping? [Quoted text hidden]

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Deepgroove1.com (chas) <awdeo@optonline.net>	Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:07 AM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
I think your trunion was shipped last month   I just got back from being away a month   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:44 AM [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM
To: "Deepgroove1.com (chas)" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Hey, just wondering when the trunnion and rotary will be shipping. Thanks, have a good one! [Quoted text hidden]

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Chas <awdeo@optonline.net>	Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:54 AM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
The trunion was suppose to be shipped by hightechsystems   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:57 PM To: Deepgroove1.com (chas) [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:55 AM
To: Chas <awdeo@optonline.net>
Were they shipping it here, or to you? Do you have some tracking info? I'd like to wrap up our transaction, it's been a while. [Quoted text hidden]

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Chas <awdeo@optonline.net>	Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:22 AM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
The trunion was supposed to be shipped via priority mail The rotary table via ups   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 12:55 PM To: Chas [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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Chas <awdeo@optonline.net>	Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:22 AM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
Derek at hightechsystems LLC said he shipped a trunion kit I shipped a rotary table via ups   My main computer is at dell so I can’t bring up my tracking info   Derek is away   Chas

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:30 AM
To: "www.deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Ok, thanks for the update.  [Quoted text hidden]

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Deepgroove1.com (chas) <awdeo@optonline.net>	Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:30 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
Derek still on the road   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:44 AM [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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Chas <awdeo@optonline.net>	Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:00 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
he is sending you another trunion 9405xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx736   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:30 PM To: www.deepgroove1.com Subject: Re: ETA on the trunion table?   [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:42 PM
To: Chas <awdeo@optonline.net>
So - I take it I'm not actually going to ever see a rotary table and trunnion? I only ever received the end support for the far side of the trunnion. Seriously, what gives over there? [Quoted text hidden]

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deepgroove1.com <awdeo@optonline.net>	Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:16 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
I shipped the rotary table to you via ups   YOU NEED TO CONTACT HIGHYECHSYSTEMS LLC  I AM DONE here   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:42 PM To: Chas Subject: Re: ETA on the trunion table?   So - I take it I'm not actually going to ever see a rotary table and trunnion? I only ever received the end support for the far side of the trunnion.   Seriously, what gives over there?   On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Chas <awdeo@optonline.net> wrote: he is sending you another trunion 9405XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX736   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:30 PM To: www.deepgroove1.com Subject: Re: ETA on the trunion table?   Ok, thanks for the update.   On Sep 26, 2017 8:22 AM, "Chas" <awdeo@optonline.net> wrote: Derek at hightechsystems LLC said he shipped a trunion kit I shipped a rotary table via ups   My main computer is at dell so I can’t bring up my tracking info   Derek is away   Chas

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:26 PM
To: "deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
In May 2017, I gave you $630 for this: Since then, I have received a motor and this: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction.action?tLabels=9405xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx736 You said you sent the rotary table via UPS. I never got a rotary table, a tracking code for a rotary table, or fixture plate. I don't know or care which parts come from who; dealing with your suppliers is your responsibility. I didn't give Derek $630; I gave you $630.  I've been ridiculously patient, but I'm not about to let this slide. You are not done until I receive all of my merchandise or a refund. [Quoted text hidden]

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deepgroove1.com <awdeo@optonline.net>	Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:33 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
I will email derek   I can not go back that far for tracking numbers   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 12:26 AM To: deepgroove1.com [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:05 AM
To: "deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Hi Chas, I've received the trunnion from Derek. I'll give you the benefit of doubt, that you've sent the rotary table; if you can do the same when I say I haven't received it. I think we'd both like to wrap this up, so do you have any ideas for how we can track it down? Jeff [Quoted text hidden]

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deepgroove1.com <awdeo@optonline.net>	Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:14 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
I am sorry I had researched the tracking number several months ago and it is no longer active   I honestly think there is an major issue,   Derek resent the trunion several times and it was lost   Sorry   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:05 PM [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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deepgroove1.com <awdeo@optonline.net>	Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:18 PM
To: Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>
I am not responsible for your stolen packages   From: Jeff Rodriguez Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:05 PM [Quoted text hidden]   [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:32 PM
To: "deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Now that I have the trunnion table, I'm not going to worry about the tracking information for the other shipments you say were lost. It would be interesting to see what USPS has to say about those tracking numbers. Since I have no rotary table, I need the tracking number, even if it's inactive online. I will do the research with USPS, and if there was indeed a shipment from you to me, with the expected weight, around the expected time - that pretty unambiguously put you in the clear. Without a tracking number, even an expired one, I have no proof anything was ever sent. [Quoted text hidden]

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Jeff Rodriguez <jeff@jeffrodriguez.com>	Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:17 PM
To: "deepgroove1.com" <awdeo@optonline.net>
Here's where I'm at today, as I write up the history of how we got here, for the public to read. All of our emails will be published on my website. On 5/24/2017 I paid you $630 for this: After a year of pulling teeth, I have this: The only tracking information I received was for:  - The original shipment containing the mill and other accessories in two boxes, including the pictured extra stepper.  - A small flat-rate mailer from High Tech Systems containing the table-idler support and pictured bags. The trunnion table itself was delivered un-announced on Mar 25th, 2018 from High Tech Systems, with no tracking information sent to me prior. No rotary axis has been delivered. No additional tracking information has been provided. If you're being truthful, I bet this could have all been avoided by you sending tracking info when you mail a package. Especially one that's late. I live on acreage, on a well-to-do island, work from home, have motion sensors, cameras, and see most of the delivery guys every day... so your stolen package theory is laughably implausible. I think it will be clear to anyone reading our exchange that I've been patient to a fault. I should have immediately requested a refund of the undelivered accessory and/or reported your failure to deliver to PayPal. I've been occupied and I just got the mill running, which is why I haven't been calling you every day for the past year about delivery. So I'm out a rotary axis, I might file a claim to recover the money from you, I'm not sure. But I will be publishing our entire email history, and sharing it with my audience. I won't lie about your kit.  Everything else in that regard seems fine. But you have completely fucked up the delivery of this one accessory, with the worst customer service experience in my 35 years on this planet. Should anyone reading this still choose to purchase from you, I will be satisfied knowing you're on a short leash. There is no 'unfucking' this. This exchange will be online forever. I'll update the story if/when you deliver a rotary axis or I recover the the money via claim. Send it, insure it, require a signature, and send me the tracking info this time, for fuck's sake. [Quoted text hidden]

In October I gave up and bought the Sherline rotary table, which still needs to be adapted to fit the Taig:

Let this strengthen the case that I did not receive what I paid for and DG1 is a liar.

BEWARE: Taig's distributor page has vendors who might stiff you. And that's your problem, according to Taig.

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